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    <title>I saw him in NYC</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Susan</name>
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    <updated>2007-05-08T04:53:40Z</updated>
    <published>2005-04-27T20:09:50Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;No joke! 
&lt;br/&gt;And he winked at me!&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2005-04-27T20:09:50Z</dc:date>
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    <title>Does Kyan like it up the ass?</title>
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      <name>Michael</name>
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    <updated>2007-05-08T04:51:57Z</updated>
    <published>2006-08-15T19:14:48Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Just wondering...&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2006-08-15T19:14:48Z</dc:date>
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    <title>Mens swimwear</title>
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      <name>Discoe</name>
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    <updated>2006-07-30T13:44:06Z</updated>
    <published>2006-07-30T13:44:06Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Discoe mens apparel, Check us out at www.discoe.com.&lt;/div&gt;
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    <title>Gloss Issue 2.25; December 5, 2003</title>
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      <name>zombieboysf</name>
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    <updated>2003-12-13T16:42:46Z</updated>
    <published>2003-12-13T16:42:46Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Gloss Holiday Exclusive: Our Eye On This Queer Guy! (by LoAnn Halden)
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan Douglas, along with Thom Filicia and Carson Kreasley, "were in attendance [of the 19th annual White Party in Miami] to support Care Resource's major HIV/AIDS fund-raiser, and the crowd greeted them like visiting royalty. For three days, the trio mingled with partygoers and graciously honored a seemingly endless stream of photo requests. From White Dreams at the Miami Seaquarium to Muscle Beach to the White Party, they added a major jolt of buzzworthiness to this year's festivities. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;In the midst of the hoopla, Kyan, the show's 'Grooming Guru,' and Thom, the resident 'Design Doctor' extracted themselves from the throngs of gay groupies to talk about this sudden burst of fame, gay stereotypes, and the worst place they've had to make over so far.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The surreal life...
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Despite the flocks of boys clamoring for his attention, Kyan (who is every bit as handsome in person) says the work balances out their new-found fame.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;'The show aired on July 15 but we'd been working five months prior to that shooting these episodes so we were very grounded in the work,' he says. 'When it finally hit, it's kind of like it wasn't that heady because we'd done all this work and we're still doing work and have continued to do work. It is very strange, but at the same time it's not like we're on this picnic whirlwind fantasy vacation.'
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;In other words, they're just guys doing what they do best. Unlike so many reality shows, with their lineups of actor wannabes, the Fab Five actually have proven track records in their respective fields... Kyan has cosmetology certification from the Aveda Institute in New York and previously worked as a colorist for an upscale Soho salon.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;'I feel part of our success is the fact that we're very natural,' says Thom. 'We don't play characters on television. It's more important that we don't put on a facade, that we represent ourselves as who we are. I think that's a really powerful and significant statement. We're not only representing the show but we're representing ourselves and other gay guys and also our relationship with straight men on the show. I think we just represent a really positive, comfortable, organic, exciting time in our culture.'
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;It takes about three days for the Fab Five to perform their special brand of makeover magic on a needy heterosexual man in the New York area, where the cast members are all based. Kyan says that in one of the new episodes taped for this season, they encountered the worst living space to date.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;'We make jokes all the time about, 'Oh these guys live in crack dens,' but we're just kidding,' he says. 'This guy really lived in a crack den. It was like the worst apartment I've ever been in, in my life. I was really anxiously awaiting what Thom would do with this place, because it was horrible.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;'We had to take allergy medicine to be in it. It was so dusty and dirty. We started coughing and sneezing and all that. But actually Thom is a genius and he pulled it off and it looked fantastic. It hasn't aired yet... so you have to watch for it.'
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Fab foreshadowing
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;If it were possible to turn back the clock and visit Thom and Kyan's pre-Fab childhood, there were indeed early signs of the fabulousness to come...
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;'Oh gosh, if I am in fact fabulous, there was no indication,' Kyan says. 'I was pretty dorky and awkward. I was a mess. I was not cute, I was shy and very awkward.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;'But I've always been interested in well-being,' he adds. 'Even as a kid, I sort of took care of myself and I used to make some skin care products in a food processor out of like papaya. I always had that in me and then I just sort of channeled that energy into various schools of education and learned about skin care and learned about hair care. You know, all the drag queens here tonight were in their mother's vanities putting on makeup. I was more interested in my mom's cleansers and moisturizers.'
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Now that Queer Eye has provided a highly visible forum for their talents, has it changed their ideas about future career plans?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan says that if there is life after the show in television, it would be great, but he doesn't allow himself to think about it too much. Meanwhile, Thom has a queer eye only for the design opportunities the show affords, which are a far cry from the high-end residential work his company handles...
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;It's a makeover show, people!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;A hair stylist, an interior designer, a 'Fashion Savant' (Carson), a 'Culture Vultur' (Jai) and a food and wine connoisseur (Ted): For all its success, Queer Eye has also received its fair share of criticism from inside and outside the gay community for perpetuating stereotypes.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;'That sort of very right population is going to find any reason not to like us, but that aside, it's a good question about the stereotyping,' Kyan says.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;'We're not actors, we're just guys on a TV show being ourselves. We don't claim to represent the entire gay community. There's no way five people could do that. We do happen to work in fashion and beauty industries; that's just who we are as five guys. It's important though for us to be able to be ourselves. If that means that in some way we sometimes embody these stereotypes then so be it, because it's not OK to sometimes be stereotypical, whatever that means, then it's allowing a fearful straight community to dictate to me how I should behave. We (the gay community) need to be very careful about balancing wanting to be part of and fitting in against giving away who we are or suppressing who we are, because if we start suppressing who we are then they're calling the shots. It's a fine balance.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;'At the end of the day, you know what? It's a makeover show and it's a lot of fun and it has heart and we're really out to do good, but it is a makeover, we're not saving lives,' he grins. 'It's not really meant to be taken that seriously.' &lt;/div&gt;
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    <title>Interesting Gossip</title>
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      <name>zombieboysf</name>
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    <updated>2003-12-13T12:28:52Z</updated>
    <published>2003-12-13T12:28:52Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Hunky grooming guy KYAN DOUGLAS might not have an agent, but he has a new “friend.” US Weekly saw him getting cozy with ROBERT GANT, who plays Ben on “Queer As Folk,” at a pre-Emmy party in L.A. two weeks ago. The two “retired to a quiet corner to chat alone” and then left in a car together.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Dish suspects Douglas was giving Gant hair tips.
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&lt;br/&gt;from Southernvoice.com 
&lt;br/&gt;URL Link: http://www.southernvoice.com/2003/10-3/arts/dishandgossip/dish.cfm
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    <title>Kyan's Quotes (from KyleFan.com)</title>
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    <updated>2003-12-13T12:13:29Z</updated>
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    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;QUOTES
&lt;br/&gt;- Queer Eye for the Straight Guy
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: She didn't even notice him. I like a woman with priorities.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: Oh my god, you're gay now; you're a homosexual.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: I'm no interior decorator, but just I have a feeling that plastic plants in the bathroom... probably not a good idea.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: They're giving you box, they're giving you bootie... those are hot.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: (looking at John's feet) They are so white, they're translucent!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: John! We're gonna play Twister with your shower curtain!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: And you have strap marks. Do I have to remind you- basically it looks like you've been wearing a bikini.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: Hey, Jai, I found the culture. It's in the bottom of the toothbrush holder.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: Tell me, what's the inspiration... 'cause this doesn't just happen.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: Oh my goodness... what's that stain?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: That is a disposable razor. That is illegal as far as I'm concerned.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: It's aftershave, and I did not have anything to do with this. If it's in a plastic tube and it's blue, it probably doesn't need to go on your face.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: What a baby! You know what women go through? They get the chocha done, and it's a lot worse than this.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: Are you getting excited? His nipples are hard.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: Nice unibrow there, big guy.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: Call me old-fashioned, but I like my conditioners to be conditioners and my shampoos to be shampoos.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: "I know women want to be cuddled after sex, but I just wanna roll over and go to sleep. Is this a normal male response?" I think it's a very normal response.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: I won't make any jokes about you being your knees now, John.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: *on the phone* Hi! How are you honey? I'm one of the fab five. I'm the grooming guy...yeah! Now...where does he get his hair cut? Kyan: If you had like a wishlist..what would you like us to do with him? Don't touch his eyebrows? *mouthes to the camera* SORRY!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;- Outside of Queer Eye
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: I was talking to [my mother] and a guy comes up and touches my arm. I’m like, 'Hold on Mom.' He said, 'I just wanted to let you know, I love the show, got a great tip from you last week.'
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: Our Quakers love us. We’re big with the Quakers. It’s all about cleanliness.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: The first time we watched an episode, I think all of us were like, "OK, I have to have my nose done."
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: As far as the grooming goes, if I'm introducing someone to skin care, I really hope they'll take what I've given them and use that for a long time. And if somebody doesn't have a lot of money and isn’t going to go spend a lot of money on skin care, I would rather find a great product line that's maybe a little less expensive that they would actually go out and spend the money on rather than pulling a resource that’s great but super expensive just because it's there.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: Just to play devil’s advocate, even if we are embracing a stereotype that gay guys are effeminate or whatever, so what? A gay guy can be effeminate. It's OK. If somebody has a problem with it, they need to lighten up, and they need to open up their minds.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: I’m all for guys being butch and guys being men. I identify with that and appreciate that. But if I'm going to stab my gay brother in the back who isn't butch and who maybe acts a little bit more effeminate, what good is that?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: I remember very distinctly this one particular day. I don't have very many memories of childhood, but this is one that stands out. Playing on the jungle gym and stuff, and I’d seen this guy walking towards me. He was probably like 19 or 18. He was an adult. But he was young and beautiful and he had this fly feathered hair and it was feathered, and I was just like - I don't know who that person was, it was just a random guy. But I remember making a conscious decision, I want to have my hair like that. My sister told me, "Well, you have to train your hair to do that." So that is when I started futzing with my hair.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: I actually carved the guy's name in the bottom of his tub with a knife. That was an all-time low for me.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: I enjoy my relationship with straight men. It's very nurturing. It's very validating to hang out with straight guys and be accepted. So many of us, we were not accepted when we were younger by straight persons in high school.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: That’s why I'm very excited for Ellen [DeGeneres]. She’s got this talk show that’s coming out. It's not being marketed as a gay show by a gay person. It's just Ellen DeGeneres.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: No nose hair. Ever. You'd be surprised at all the little twigs sticking out. I just can't get it. How can you see that and not just want to hack it off?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan: Everyone's hip to the fact that we all do things to accentuate our looks -- and it's much more accepted.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;(from http://kylefan.com )&lt;/div&gt;
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    <title>Kyan's Biography with Q&amp;amp;A (from KyleFan.com)</title>
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    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Full Name: Eddie 'Kyan' Douglas
&lt;br/&gt;Age: 33
&lt;br/&gt;"There's no excuse for nose hair. Ever!" Kyan is a specialist in men's skin care has had extensive training and professional experience in the Hair, Spa and Retail industries. He received his certification in cosmetology from the Aveda Institute New York, and worked as a colorist at the upscale Arrojo Studio in Soho. He has worked as a colorist for television and magazine projects including TLC's What Not To Wear, While You Were Out and Child Magazine.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kyan currently stars as 1/5th of the crew of Queer Eye for the Straight Guy as the Grooming Guru, in charge of hair, skin and beauty.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Q&amp;amp;A
&lt;br/&gt;1. Describe your ideal vacation - location and activities.
&lt;br/&gt;Camping at the beach with a beautiful man! Horseback riding on the beach, bonfires, scuba diving, swimming, lots of great seafood and wine, reading and naked naps.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;2. What type of workout keeps you in shape?
&lt;br/&gt;Aerobic training, strength training and some yoga.
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&lt;br/&gt;3. What's your favorite "guilty pleasure?"
&lt;br/&gt;Ice cream.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;4. What product or item could you not live without?
&lt;br/&gt;My iPod.
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&lt;br/&gt;5. What is your all-time favorite book?
&lt;br/&gt;"The Alchemist."
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&lt;br/&gt;6. What was the name and species of your childhood pet?
&lt;br/&gt;"Muffin" - a miniature schnauzer.
&lt;br/&gt;"Ginger" - a golden retriever.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;7. What celebrity do you think has an amazing sense of style?
&lt;br/&gt;Ashton Kutcher, yum!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;8. Which celebrity would you most like to makeover?
&lt;br/&gt;Sam Donaldson.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;9. What is the worst style faux pas a person can commit?
&lt;br/&gt;Nose hair!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;10. What's your biggest pet peeve?
&lt;br/&gt;Mean spiritedness.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;11. Who is your role model or personal inspiration?
&lt;br/&gt;My dad.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;(from http://kylefan.com )&lt;/div&gt;
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